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  Materialism and those with "spiritual experiences"

  by slimboyfat in

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  more and more i find myself coming to a materialist view of the world.

  i don't believe in afterlife, ghosts, angels, auras, astrology, revelations and the like.

  so what am i to make of people who claim to have spiritual experiences?

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  after my disconnection from the BORG collective, I came to the point of believing that materialistic atheism could explain just about everything and then I had some very odd -beyond natural explanation experiences and nothing to tell me what they meant. but one thing they showed me: materialism could not explain everything.

  since that time, the reason for my name on this board... I have come to understand that no experience I have is actually outside my mind which means that like a dream, some weird things can appear to happen without actually happening anywhere else but my mind...including the possibility that everything I am experiencing right now is also just a dream...just a dream....

  thats me in the corner thats me in the spot light ...

  ....losing my religion.....

  REM

  I have since had two past life regressions with suprizing results and an out of body experience....and while I cannot expect anyone to accept my word for these things, I believe everyone can have them...but without them giving them any concrete answers, just a lot more questions .(^_^).

  it seems to me that no honest person, (assuming others actually exist )

  can hold any belief system or BS to be the same as a fact OF experience....

  it also seems to me that honest people are not rewarded nor respected--- the best liars= politicians, clergy and people paid to lie- actors, are the most rewarded.

  while the honest are taken advantage of more than anything.
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  What part of the bible makes no sense to you?

  by JH in

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  please make this less than 100 lines....

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  all the blatant contradictions that no believer can seem to see but all non-believers can pick out right away.

  God is all knowing --- but he did not have a clue what was going on in Sodom other than "reports" that had come to him

  God is everywhere -- but he had to GO DOWN and see for himself.

  God is all merciful and impartial - but he has people murdered without trial, charges or even a chance to repent on numerous occasions.

  God wants to save everyone, but he can't because of the lack of faith -- but faith is a gift God gives to those he choses.

  God is all wise and all knowing -- yet he damns reality for not being what he always knew it would not be.... like Jesus cursing the fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season.
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  Do You Like Your Given Name?

  by Outaservice in

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  the bible attaches importance to your name.

  if not, what would you like to change it to?.

  i always hated mine!

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  I was named after my grandfather and until the age of twelve I did not know it... I was called a nick name...

  when I found out, I was horrified and swore that one day I would change it.... I promised to wait until my grandfather was dead...

  two years after he died the idea popped into my head and when I found out it only cost $30 bucks and $5 for a legal copy, I was in.

  I legally changed my name August 1985.... 21 years ago, perhaps even this day (^_^)
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  Are witnesses Christians?

  by KW13 in

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  i know that all religions have their flaws, so do you agree that witnesses should call themselves christians or are they 'too un-christian'?.

  the baptism, i think proves its different, they are baptized into an organization, that forms part of the questions...agreeing that the society is god's earthly representation.. personally i feel they are not christians.

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  are JWs christian.... who gets to decide? there is no such thing as a verifiable absolute organization that designates who is a christians...

  JWs can say who is or is not a JW and catholics can say that for themselves too...but no one can really say who is or is not a christian in the same way...

  so its basically a meaningless question.
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  Requesting Experiences...

  by LtCmd.Lore in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just thought it would be nice to have a documented case of someone other than a jw having been 'protected' from rape, carjacking, murder or mugging in an unusual way (ie.

  praying, preaching or screaming 'o my god' and the guy stops and apologizes.).

  the idea is that i can the relate the experience to a witness, .

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  after my exodus from the BORG collective, I discovered that seemingly miraculous events have followed me about, sometimes very very miraculous like events... and all without prayer to anyone nor asking for anything....they just happen, sometimes with amazing timing... so it occurs to me that atheist and believers have the same sort of experiences, but believers just think someone arranged them while atheists just accept that they dont understand how the universe works enough to explain things that happen like that...

  one of my favorite lines---- GOD, well, you know when you close your eyes really tight and wish for something?, he's the one ignoring you (^_^)
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  Big Announcementitis - JWs and 'Postates

  by slimboyfat in

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  what is it with jehovah's witnesses and apostates and "big announcements" - they are as bad as each other.

  witnesses are always on about big announcements in the pipeline - just to end up being disappointed.

  like the time they reduced the pioneers hours - big wow.

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  its only a joke until someone loses an eye, then its a religion
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  Why I write...

  by Jerohobobonadad in

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  hello all, been lurking a few weeks, decided to post..... i am mid 20's, male, unbaptised, 3rd generation, elder family etc.

  a number of years ago, in the name of intellectual honesty, i decided to research religions to make an informed choice before being baptised as a jw.... there was not enough time (and i was too uninterested) to look at other religions seriously, so i figured if jw is the "truth" then it should be able to stand any criticism.. is it just me or is it all a load of old bollocks?!.

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  Any religion that punishes the honest [those who just dont believe JWs represent any god] and rewards the dishonest [those who stay in for family sake], cannot be right, can it?
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  Big Announcement - From JW Elder

  by Qcmbr in

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  if you read my other post you'll get the context but since this will be of great potential interest here it is: .

  the jws are soon(next few months) going to make a public proclamation against all other churches which he was confident would 'shake things up' and would make a few jws unhappy???.

  is this the big announcement for september?

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  the big announcement is that they will have to wear placards that say religion is a snare and a racket in liquid crystal display...changing every several seconds to some bible verse or other..and carry i-pods playing pre-recorded scripts to the door with headphones for the house holder....to keep up with advances in technology
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  for atheists/agnostics

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  how did you get to the point where you are at now?

  was it primarily new information that made you rethink religion and god?

  learning about the ice age, the universe, the fossils out there?

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  I became agnostic for the 2nd time, post JW because I determined to follow the facts no matter where they lead me...and I discovered they always lead me back to my own perceptions, my own minds inventions, my own opinions, my own beliefs, in short, everything leads me to conclude that I can never be sure of any objective reality outside of my own existance... I am the dreamer dreaming because I cannot be sure of being anything else .(^_^). <<looks like the jettisons robot maid, dont it?
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  Happy Heretic, Freethinker, Apostate - How do you see yourself?

  by Seeker4 in

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  in the thread on agnostic or atheist, startingover posted an article by a woman who is referred to as the happy heretic.

  i like that phrase.

  how do you view yourself?

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  I am basically a zen agnostic pragmatic pan-me-istic skeptic .(^_^).